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[Reelsoffun WANTED $3 Outlaw]

I have to say this is some good tracking info away from slot tracker, some of the best i seen reported, however if i could make some small suggestion.

Track start balance, stake, spins on that stake and feature pay  and balance after feature pay added  eg something like this

 

£30  –  20p   50 spins  feature pay  (6.80) 34x  balance now  eg  32.80 << guessed this as no way to tell what it was using your above data

£32.80 – 20p 420 spins feature pay (£67) 335x  balance now 85.00

£85.00 20p …. .. . . .and so on

Of course if you change stake between features make sure to start a new line so that you can still calculate stakes properly. eg 35 @  20p  then  50 @ 40p  etc  its a bit fiddly till you get used to it but once you get used to it  its easy to see why some games are way harder to win on than others as you will with more data start to break down each games profile. Not that you would need a spreadsheet to break down the difference between Bonanza and Napoleon’s profiles for example lol

This way gives you enough info for a speadsheet to work out all the data for you even more than what you have listed above very easily.

 

[Reelsoffun WANTED $3 Outlaw]

I too wasn’t one of the winners, which was a shame as I have been ripped a new one on several of bandits favorite slots lately but would like to say well done to all the winners and a massive hand shake for bandit, what a true legend you are, keep up all the good you do and love all your vids!

 

All the best……..

Steve P.

 

[Reelsoffun WANTED $3 Outlaw]

@the bandit

I been telling you for months that Drive can give huge and to take it off your ban list LOL, finally you see what im on about!  🙂

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Yeah come on speedy spill the bees 😉

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Slotgrinder wrote:

What if you got the hive filled on 100 quid spins and then triggered the swarm at 20p :p no way the game could pay enough to meet the 97% rtp

Seems like we should rly be able to see how the swarm payouts and chances are calculated because it’s difficult to see how they manage it ? Most games like this would payout the swarm on the average stake used to fill the hive or something like that

Totally agree, as a bare min it should be that but not really any info about it for the player, very surprised UKGC not got an issue with it to be honest.

My advise would be to avoid this game like the plague.

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I can say there is at least two reasons that changing stake does not matter, either its a mistake that it dont keep track of each stake separately, or its not random and it can control when its triggered.

Being able to change stake at will would open the door for stake manipulation at the very least if it was random, so it will almost certainly be changing the odds somehow to protect against that.

These predatory games should be banned IMO, and the UKGC should look into these type of games very closely as 100% all will not be as it appears to the player on these.

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Its not a position i would mind being in, having to wait a day for each 2.3k withdrawal lol

Congrats, and as long as your account is legit you wont have any issues getting it out from VS they are a good, well behaved casino.

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Soxdog7 wrote:

Slots are random. But look on a real slot site like casinomeister and for years the regulars have been stating videoslots always produces the lowest rtp…

make from that what you will….

Well…..well….well

I have known many slots to not be random, 100% and in fact were compensated,  but hey your welcome to your views too 🙂

 

 

 

 

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The Bandit wrote:

Here is mine at the moment….

 

 

That’s a very respectable RTP considering the amount you have wagered there.

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Oh I forgot to put, “still trust them do you?”

 

Knowing what I know?   I don’t actually trust ANY slot provider TBH.  Its still no where near regulated enough, considering the amount of money going through online casinos.

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Soxdog7 wrote:

Are you aware the BTG ceo on casinomeister faked screenshots of big wins and also lied about a competition?..

he was caught out.

If you don’t believe me have a look on casinomeister, it’s fact and was admitted by the ceo and BTG

still trust them do you?….

That was where I was quoting from with the pre determined stuff.

People fake stuff all the time and lie about competitions, they done one since that was honored.

We will never know 100% anything unless you have coded it yourself, however things like picking stones is far harder to code it cheating than to just have it genuine picks, the math would level out over many features so it dont need to be pre determined or cheat.

I expect there is a massive amount of dodgy stuff that goes on, some legal and some maybe not, its why i wont play certain providers.

I could give you loads of proof of stuff thats not right, but for obvious reasons I cant give you proof, or the providers or games, but i know 100% some slots are compensated and NOT “every spin has the exact same chance”  Some hide it quite well some don’t but it gives me a laugh when i know its not right, and as for the UKGC they are not clued up enough to investigate things properly no matter what complaints they get.

I can see the industry getting a real wake up call sooner or later tho its all building up, as more people get wiser and share more and more game data.

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The Bandit wrote:

Dammit, i thought the Extra Chilli might stump some folks haha Well done mate and yeah, the spoiler thing you said i may well ask about, i will get some more pics up soon though

Hi bandit i submitted a couple of big win shots the other day but not sure one counts as it a dis-continued slot…. would PM you but didnt know how  lol

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Soxdog7 wrote:

Majority pre determined. Like danger, the rtp is better in gates, but the potential is in high voltage. All pre determined before you click.

Just like stones

 

Sorry your wrong, BTG official has confirmed it is not pre determined at that point, so it matters what you pick, and the RTP is the same for both features it has to be, in case a play only ever picks one all the time.

As for the stones, only the provider knows for certain but the math and odds would suggest it don’t need to be pre determined and what you pick is what you get. If you log your features you can see its pretty close to the expected amount of times you get the reel 2 / reel 4 wilds  etc

Show me the proof its pre determined and we can go from there….

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White magnum, mint feasts and ice lolly is cider lollys 🙂

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Biohazard wrote:

Xbobmad wrote:

I’d make the “youtube” slot… spend years playing it to build up for a win, then when you hit collect it deletes your winnings and kicks you hard in the nuts

10/10 banter.

I love the create-your-own free spin type bonuses (e.g. Secret of the Stones), so would love to make a slot which has a crazy amount of free spin adjustments you can choose from, with varying number of picks similar to how Laser Fruit gives you free spins (e.g. a big wheel could roll in 8 picks, up to a max of 50 picks, and there are 50 different boxes to choose from each with +3 spins, +1x multiplier, wild reels, random wilds, wild symbol, symbol removal, colossal symbols etc.). I’d enjoy the potential of that!

 

From a coders point of view nightmare with all that going on lol, but from a players POV  lots of fun if you get the math right to go with it. I like the stones too and the very similar but not exact clone secrets of Christmas.

Im currently working on a secret of stones clone  slot sim with a halloween theme, not sure how its gonna turn out still tinkering with the math, but the picks will be 100% true random and completely down to player luck 🙂  So it will be interesting how it plays compared to the real one and thats the advantage of making it yourself you know its not cheating lol

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