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[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

I had 2FA switched on for withdrawals and I got the code through on my email

 

my IT company have checked again and no access to my email was gained.

so how did they get the money out ?

I have asked them this and they replied.

you must ensure your account is secure

 

We take no responsibility for funds being withdrawn!!

totally ignore the point every time

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

Just had my account balance emptied too

 

£1600

 

I had 2FA switched on too

 

and they are saying it’s my problem not theirs … how the fuck does that work

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

Hey so it’s not just me and my mate that do it!!

don’t think we started it that far back…. We are only up to around 6500 bonus buys in total…..

it’s a shame that you cant post spreadsheets on here as my previous discussion on here regarding the stats caused some contention.

out of interest what do you do when bandit plays hacksaws for instance and spins for the bonus rather than actually bonus buys ?

or plays dog house where you have to spin in the feature?

 

 

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

And for those of you that prefer pictures !!!

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

Glad you got yours sorted. And nice win too well done !!

mine is the right currency address etc… they are asking me to transfer to another currency but to swap from ether to ltc is going to cost £50 .. and the fees are high enough as is … ggrrrrr

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

There is nothing to stop them

having 2 versions of a game though..

 

a launch version with a 99% RTP or 105% for that matter and then after a few weeks

 

redirect you to the 96% version.

thats my theory on how streamers do so well… they get an affiliate account which directs to the higher math model version.

thats totally within laws and would explain a lot.

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

I have withdrawn from BC loads of times no issues but now I am

having same issue …

 

and support wasn’t much help

 

clear cache and try again in a few hours

 

anyone else solve this issue ?

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

When it comes to RTP the argument can always be it’s too small…

 

but it’s the only measuring tool we have..

 

and no it’s not a gotcha at all…. Jees people need to read between the lines…

A gotcha moment was one like happened to Roshstein with the demo balance/real balance tab…

 

this is nothing like that..

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

Unicorns….

Well that was literally one of the slots that he kept winning on, and despite it only being a small data set, I don’t know about you, but personally if I have a great run on a game I tend to leave it alone as I feel they go feral ( I still think there is compensation built into slots if I’m honest )

especially No Limit Bonus Buys..which is why when bandit first played 9-5 and hit the max win 4 from 11 spins I think it was….

me and stato had said “ hope he doesn’t go back to that game at a later date as it will rip him a new one… ( the odds of a max win are 1/7 ish)

and indeed he did and got smashed…

that doesn’t really prove anything as small numbers but did seem interesting that it followed what you would expect going on his first session on it.

 

so was just putting it out there to see what happened moving forward on that slot…

 

nothing more than that really.

 

 

 

 

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

Russ

 

Great post, and thank you for being slightly nicer about it this time…

 

ok firstly I very much doubt steve is going to disappear, he is making good money out of doing something he loves, I’m not sure where I get these figures from ( maybe from one of his videos, but I got the impression that the revenue from YT goes massively towards funding the £4k deposit on the video .
plus he is getting revenue from the players at these sites too…

And…I’m not giving him grief, it’s a discussion point on something that me and a friend noticed when “ stato” decided to track Steve’s results to see if there was any pattern in the RTP on individual games and his subsequent sessions….

<span style=”font-size: 1rem;”>his on screen run over the past couple of months was extremely “lucky” and hence my initial comment as it felt too good to be true over such a long period of time.. </span>

and when I say a long period of time, I’m not talking about RTP over millions of spins, I am talking about personally never having a run where for 2 months straight, pretty much every day I played for a couple of hours and won, and worst case I got into a hole and got out of it again to achieve parity ( which I totally agree feels like a win !)

 

and again I agree, watching steve go on tilt is the best entertainment ( sorry Bandit but you are sooo funny)

the Reel King days were amazing and everyone was rooting for you !!)

 

my concern was that over those 2 months of videos there appeared to be a very clear message where the “ third time lucky” or one for the road kept paying off, and was giving the message that chasing was the way to go….

now one thing that I have always admired Steve for is his ability to walk away, that’s hard to do… and sometimes, no matter how deep he will just up and leave a game, and I think that’s part of his reason for success; I get stubborn at times and it usually ends badly !!

as for poker, you obviously had an edge to be so successful, I presume from the sound of it that you were almost playing GTO before it was even a thing!
as you seem very to be heavily numbers based, which long term playing the numbers in poker will produce a profit … it’s just a fact, add some exploitative play into that and you have yourself a winning player aka you!! ( very jealous btw I love poker )

As for the sites having super users, well as players are signing up having watched the videos, surely it would be in their interests to have an affiliate showing positive results to entice people to play…

So giving an affiliate an edge would potentially be rewarding for them, and the affiliate may not even know.
Rosh has always been too much for me, although I did love the video where he was playing crazy time and the viewer told him to choose green and the yellow went double double double double double !! His face !!!

Foss is the same but does give money/watches away to viewers… ( apparently )

 

your question about unicorns… hold on I can’t remember it… I’ll be back

 

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

Russcawley.

please don’t wade in with your half arsed comments where you have clearly not read the whole thread and therefore are totally missing the point.
I have not asked and would not ask for any financials from anyone,

i have not asked anything, and I understand exactly how slots and RTP work, and yes 1500 is a small data set but RTP is the only measurement we have and the on screen games we watch are the only data we can use:

 

I haven’t cherry picked data,‘it’s every single purchased bonus for over 2 months.

Steve chose to respond to my initial comment on YT which I’m guessing you haven’t seen and therefore you are missing the whole point of the thread…

and the other thing I think you have missed is that the thread is the tone, you are coming across as somewhat rude and aggressive..

so maybe get your tongue out of bandits arse and chill a little… he can fight his own battles and has discussed this amicably.

 

as for casinos and the golden button…

you are trying to simplify a premise that is easily achievable for casinos to use if they wanted too…

 

not by flicking a switch, but for example and to be honest I’m loathed to spend too much time on this as you are obviously massively opinionated and this will fall on deaf ears, but hey…

 

all games have to be tested by testing houses etc, we all know that; we also know that providers get different versions of the same games tested. For instance, you will know that VS has a lower RTP version of play and go slots I believe.

so what would be stopping sites having higher version RTP slots too with 105% versions and “ super accounts “ for which the user may not even know about, get directed to the higher RTP versions.

of you don’t think sites can have super users… think back to the ultimate poker scandal, where certain users could see hole cards.

 

I’m not saying this is the case, I’m not saying Bandit is a fraud, I am literally following up from a comment made and backing up that comment with facts…

so play nice,

Bandit has been

 

ps a genuine question for you then….
what makes streamers like Foss for  instance  a fake streamer and bandit a genuine one?

 

D

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

Appreciate the reply Bandito,

 

it’s not that small a sample it’s over 1500 bonus buys now, I literally just posted a screen shot of the front page to purely show you it existed.

my point about it only covering your onscreen buys was to show that it hasnt included some of your big wins you have mentioned ( 2 x mental Max wins for instance ) as it doesn’t show any of your off screen losses either so that would make the data bias.

so the only thing it can show is what you do online, and that was my initial concern and hence my post as over recent months; despite you whinging like a little bitch all the time ( which we enjoy, it’s what we come to listen too) you are on such a hot streak ( on screen ) that it gives a false impression.

you may not feel it over the past few videos ( I am 2 vids behind, but the anorak is up to date and says you are still at 107% )

I’ve just realised that sounds awful calling him that !! The “ statistician” from herein !! I am like you I couldn’t be arsed, he used to track all my data and wins and losses but got painful when they took off auto plays and FB from VS.
that’s what he does and he is very good at it, he also used to in the business as a programmer a long time back, so knows there are lots of things going on behind the scene that are not quite as they would have us believe.

from subtle things like have you noticed every slot has at least 2 symbols that look the same… thats because they can use those symbols to trick the brain for a split second into thinking you have a win, which sends a shot of dopamine ( which is the hit we are chasing when we play) and it does all that for free. And then we chase more because we thought we had won!
its gets you all the time actually: same with the walking past waving wanker near miss…

how shitty is that !!

I think it’s a little churlish tho to just say “ I don’t believe some random, although I get where you are coming from, afford me some credit, do you think I would go to this effort and then it transpire … oh actually we sat there and made it up !!
you can tell from my references to so many of your sessions and comments that I am an avid watcher and have been for years ( many years actually ) and I am big believer that the industry is corrupt to its core, and that people like yourself are one of the true shining lights of “ reality”

 

but when your stats suddenly become massively inflated over the expected, which coincides to the flip to the dark side it raises eyebrows, and you have to see that surely …on the flip side I also feel that you are very generous in allowing me to post this thread and respond to it as you have, and I that in itself speaks volumes for you as a person.

Hope the mouth is healing Mr Lispy

 

D

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

 

So… in answer to your question, Sadly no I cant post it on here, it doesn’t let me post a file,  But I have just posted a screen grab of the last entries Just to prove it actually exists !!

 

for reference it started on your ” Release the Kraken video from just over 2 months ago, and has included every Video since, However for transparency (and I did say this previously ) its only been on your Feature Buy Bonuses as these were what we were looking into, and as soon as you include your base game hits and losses its skews the data. (its also a couple of videos behind, (I will sack the anorak !!)

so it does EXclude your Hacksaw 5x more likely spins that you have been doing recently….. however the trend that we noticed was before you started doing them anyways as the spreadsheet shows,

if you look at the top line on the screen grab you will see the running totals and the RTP.

 

The running totals over the course of the spreadsheet are interesting as when you started they were not great and in fact thinking back, you initial dabble into the Crypto casino, you were quite despondent and went back to Mr Vegas for a few videos….

But then as you went up the levels and became a Higher VIP and presumably had contact with the affiliate bods at the casino, your luck began to improve, at round about the time you offered the referral code which incidentally we did use in appreciation of your content.

Your run from that point onward has been….. lets say ” extraordinarily  lucky” to have maintained an RTP on Feature Buys over 100%

 

what has made life a little awkward is that you have moved onto a different site, and if the theory that there are some sort of compensation algorithms  in play, changing to a new site skews that, however as a for instance….

You are currently running at a MAHOOOSIVE 179.41% RTP on Wild Unicorns

you have wagered 23,700 in Feature Buys

you have Returns of 42,521.20

with a Profit of 18,821.20

 

Now in essence thats over a fairly small sample on one game (58 Bonuses to be precise)

 

So well within the realms of standard deviation, however you also said you sessioned this a few times at the bar, for which we haven’t seen the returns  so on the figures we have to go on you are well and truly due to be fisted on that slot for sure. so it would be interesting for you to play a few features on that and see if the data and the theory hold up (not that it would prove anything on such small numbers but would be interesting)

 

So bear in mind when you go to your rep and ask the question, that this is for Bonus buys only and obviously only includes what we see…

and then maybe you can see where I was actually coming from with my original post.

 

KR

 

D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

Bandit

 

I will find out from the “anorak” when he started the data… and it wasn’t done or worded in any way, in order to manipulate anything… I assumed your brain fart on 9-5 that time where you cremated a decent balance would have hit it hard but it didn’t make that much difference in the grand scheme of things,

as I have said, message me an email address or a way of sending it to you and I’ll shoot it over… it does make interesting reading… and for transparency the reason we started it initially was to see if the stats were able to predict what games you were potentially due a win on or a loss… so for instance 9-5 I believe initially you hit 3 max wins off 11 spins ( that’s from memory )

 

the average is 1/7 ish so you were way above the curve…

next session it battered you …

sugar rush you hit hard on your first crypto site for a 2.5k and a 7k I think ( memory again ) then it went feral….

interesting I think your latest big win on it was on the new site… which obviously doesn’t have your history to worry about…

 

we have felt slots are compensated some way in the back ground for a long time now and that’s how this all started.. it’s not a witch hunt!

cos you would make a rubbish witch !!

so let me send it to you,

 

D

[sa satman WANTED $2 Outlaw]

Jees there is some sh*t flying about here…

@bandit I have watched you for years now and apart from you being insanely spawny most of time which can piss me off as I sit there for days at a time playing games like sugar rush..: spaffing a £800 balance on £2 just to see you smash £7k out with 10 minutes of playing …

Years of playing jars… on £2 £4 £6

go f*ck your epic plums…

lil devil… never even had a retrigger after zillions of hours playing and what was it £28k off 80p wtf!!!

all that aside, my heart skips a beat when I get a you tube notification that you have posted a video cos you are funny as F*^k

im due to come to your town in a few months…. Assuming you are back on the sauce then I was contemplating rocking up at the golf course and buying you a jager bomb or 2 and chatting shit for the night…

 

or is that stalker ish !!!

oh and I think I’m one of the few that love you playing reel king!!

you’re so funny when you tilt…: I feel bad sometimes wanting you to lose just to hear you kick off!!!

The only positive from that is that I like seeing you turn it around whereas if I watch other streamers I hope they lose as they are all fake AF

 

( see me there 50 years old and down with the lingo )

 

 

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