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benq99 wrote:

Tuckerlfc1 wrote:

Probably been asked a million times, but as I’m new to the forum I’d like to gain and understanding what you do for a living in able to play high stake slots like you do and piss away £125k on reel king? Cheers

NEW you joined in 2018 dont call that new

Videoslots offer some of the best reload offers of any casino. 20x wagering means you have a positive EV and the key is not to stop if you bust your original £500 deposit, you need to keep depositing until you clear all the bonus otherwise you are playing into the casinos hands and giving back value. They haven’t sent me a reload offer in months.

You really need a £50k bank minimum to do offers like this though.

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Just Basics wrote:

slottinggooner wrote:

Just Basics wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

The thing I don’t like about a lot of streamers is this “we’re in”, “we have a bonus”, “we’re in profit guys!” – er no mate “we” are not anything, you are.

For once I totally agree with you @Argyl53

That video that Nickslots just did in his car saying ” all we want is proof” pretending to be one of us made me laugh my fkin arse off.

He’s so deluded thinking he’s In any way hes one of us. It’s pathetic and just funny as fk.

He’s just jumping on our band wagon so the convos not about him for once.

 

Its a sales technique isn’t it for sure initiated by the marketing departments of Casinos. They will train each streamer on the etiquette of inclusion making people feel part of a community. The reality the viewer as we all know, if they click those links, is the cash cow that keeps the stream going.

Same applies for any blogs etc, when you are writing online content that relies in selling a product.

 

Wonder why we don’t see BANDIT or Rolla saying “we”

Aren’t they the most popular most watched most talked about spotters?

Get a grip.

Because they aren’t sheep who expect regular deposit bonuses? That’s why those two are revered by gamblers, I don’t need to tell you that.

Plus they aren’t selling casinos in the same with daily streams on Twitch.

I was wondering how long it would be before you jumped down my throat. I feel honoured.

🙂

 

 

 

 

 

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Just Basics wrote:

argyl53 wrote:

The thing I don’t like about a lot of streamers is this “we’re in”, “we have a bonus”, “we’re in profit guys!” – er no mate “we” are not anything, you are.

For once I totally agree with you @Argyl53 ?

That video that Nickslots just did in his car saying ” all we want is proof” pretending to be one of us made me laugh my fkin arse off.

He’s so deluded thinking he’s In any way hes one of us. It’s pathetic and just funny as fk.

He’s just jumping on our band wagon so the convos not about him for once.

 

Its a sales technique isn’t it for sure initiated by the marketing departments of Casinos. They will train each streamer on the etiquette of inclusion making people feel part of a community. The reality the viewer as we all know, if they click those links, is the cash cow that keeps the stream going.

Same applies for any blogs etc, when you are writing online content that relies in selling a product.

 

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Matter of opinion isn’t it really. Whilst I like Chip and don’t have a problem with Nickslots both of them are pretty dull.

Labowsky, does spin higher generally and has a chilled outlook on life, so naturally, he’s going to attract those sorts of people.

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awesomex wrote:

Gecksy wrote:

In Chips video he mentions affiliation and uses the example “£20k per month”

Are streamers really getting anywhere near that sort of money via affiliation because that’s huge !

 

Well, when I had a deal with Casumo, I got 30% of what every player who registered through me lost. I never actually used it, but.. This is of course after the casino’s expenses are covered. Let’s say it’s as low as 10% after all that just for the math;
Say I have 50 people who lose an average of 100 quid each per month. That’s 500 quid for me. Now imagine you’ve got thousands of people where many of them register to play through all your affiliate links at like 5 casinos. Say there are 2000 people using your links, and 500 of them use links for all your sites. You now have 4000 signups at 5 casinos. Say 20% of the ones who signed up through your shit are regulars who play for 300 each per month. If they all lose that, you now have 800 people who lost 300 each, totalling 240,000. If you’re left with 10%, you’re doing pretty damn good.

Of course the deals vary from casino to casino and streamer to streamer, but yeah, you can make what others make in a year every month.

Remember thats your gross income before expenses though, £20k a month is nothing special for a streamer. You could have a terrible month where your losses on stream exceed your affiliation income. Then a few of your signups could hit big wins to exacerbate this effect even further. That is of course assuming you are using real money and this is where the temptation to be less than honest comes in.

I am not saying its not a lucrative business because yeah when you are established with a following  a lot more than £20k+ is achievable. Roshtein in a corporation in that sense, he will be turning over millions.

 

 

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PsychicSnail wrote:

slottinggooner wrote:

He shows his skrill payments, but that doesn’t prove anything IMO. His audience is basically gullible punters who don’t understand the intricacies of casino’s and how they make their money. Not sure if he promotes any UKGC licensed casinos, but if he does they should look into his promotional activity.

I used to work for a financial services firm that was authorised in the UK. Anything that was used to sell a product was classed as a financial inducement by the FCA. That could be marketing literature, social media commentary a website with links etc etc.

Exactly the same principle should apply to streamers, they should have a fit and proper test by the casinos to allow representation. All financial audit trails should also be disclosed to UKGC to prove casinos are not simply planting people with fake money. Somehow I suspect UKGC doesn’t have the same bite as the FCA, they should do though given the amount of money involved.

 

What intricacies are you talking about mate? Surely it’s fairly straight forward. Casinos host games that give them a decent edge, people play, lose money and the casinos get rich. Am I missing something?

But its not is it. Thats all part of the deception, Roshtein has a 300% deposit bonus with favourable wagering terms that mean every bullet he fires gives him a positive EV. Forget whether its real money or not for a minute.

He is selling something to his viewers that they cannot replicate. Casinos/bookmakers look at these people many with gambling problems as mug punters who don’t understand what is going on mathematically.

 

 

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He shows his skrill payments, but that doesn’t prove anything IMO. His audience is basically gullible punters who don’t understand the intricacies of casino’s and how they make their money. Not sure if he promotes any UKGC licensed casinos, but if he does they should look into his promotional activity.

I used to work for a financial services firm that was authorised in the UK. Anything that was used to sell a product was classed as a financial inducement by the FCA. That could be marketing literature, social media commentary a website with links etc etc.

Exactly the same principle should apply to streamers, they should have a fit and proper test by the casinos to allow representation. All financial audit trails should also be disclosed to UKGC to prove casinos are not simply planting people with fake money. Somehow I suspect UKGC doesn’t have the same bite as the FCA, they should do though given the amount of money involved.

 

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Im the profit maximiser facebook group, one member has won £80k to a £1.80 stake. Congrats on the win, its a sick slot.

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The real can of worms though is Roshtein, he still has to prove he is legit. I don’t even follow aussie streamers.

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There is a rumour going around that the class beef boys are employees of Roshtein. I unsubbed from their stream because I don’t find them very sincere and told them what I thought. I could be wrong I could be right, who knows but I am going by hunch. Their response was to insta ban me, even after I unsubbed then go on about how legit they are for 10 mins. Perhaps there is more than meets the eye with these two.

 

 

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Just to add to my post above ^^^, the type of crypto that I was alluding to is the big coins ie Bitcoin and Ethereum, which are much more likely to stand the test of time than some of the others. As always do your own research before investing.

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Don’t touch Forex if you have limited experience of investing let alone day trading.

Crypto is full of scams, pump and dumps and YouTubers with absolutely no expertise in the field dishing out rank advice when they don’t even have any investment qualifications. In saying that, if you have a high tolerance for risk ie you are prepared to lose it all, including up to 5% maybe 10% in crypto in a portfolio can be considered.

The most consistent investment vehicle for producing returns ahead of inflation is the stock market. You need a long time horizon though, min 5 years to ride out market turbulence.

 

 

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Awesomex might be a mathematical genius but he/she doesn’t acknowledge data protection/gpdr laws when sharing information on a forum.

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Roshtein, where do I begin. Firstly there is nothing skilful about what he does, it may even be construed as borderline deceptive. The reality is he has a massive following, and it is that following that allows him to negotiate the best affiliate deals any streamer will have. He claims only to use a handful of casinos, but a lot of casinos are not prepared to give him deposit bonuses of 300% with 30,40 or 45x wagering.

He talks about affiliation a lot on his stream, but what he does not say is how his own deposit bonuses are hugely more lucrative than the deposit bonuses he offers people who click his signup. I have an EV calculator, and based on playing Book of Dead (one of his go to slots) his EV for £270k of wagering with a 2k dep 6k euros bonus is over 2000 euros for each bullet he fires. I will gladly remortgage my property, and play slots every day for this edge over the house.

That creates for a situation where he regularly has big hits and cashouts, people who see this on stream instantly think they can replicate this when the reality is they are being suckered in. The casino does not have a large edge on the initial signup, but as soon as a punter deposits raw cash, Roshtein can pretty much look forward to 30%+ of their losses. If there is a negative month where there are lots of big wins, then he doesnt make any money from affiliation, but as we have seen he’s making a killing from just playing every day.

The other thing I don’t like is a lot of the “career” streamers suck up to him. They know the score, but purely on a business level, it’s not in their interests to out what I consider as shady practices. You can’t even discuss it on their streams.

If you like what he does in the form of entertainment, and I do sometimes watch him. But I wouldn’t touch any of his links with a bargepole.

The most honest streamers/content producers around today are the Bandit (and I am not just saying this because it’s his forum) and Rocknrolla. Both play high stakes predominantly with raw cash. They are also in different ways as entertaining as Roshtein.

 

 

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